{"id":530,"date":"2020-11-05T15:11:37","date_gmt":"2020-11-05T15:11:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ftd.cognihealth.in\/?page_id=530"},"modified":"2024-11-01T03:41:36","modified_gmt":"2024-11-01T03:41:36","slug":"functional-dissociative-seizures","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/symptoms\/fnd-symptoms\/functional-dissociative-seizures\/","title":{"rendered":"Functional (Dissociative) Seizures"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>These are one of the commonest FND symptoms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Functional seizures are also called &#8216;dissociative seizures\/attacks&#8217;, &#8216;psychogenic seizures&#8217; and \u2018non epileptic seizures\/attacks\u2019. I have described them as \u2018functional seizures\u2019 on this website.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dissociative attacks are disabling and frightening attacks that look very similar to epilepsy or faints. People can experience shaking attacks or attacks when they simply \u2019blackout\u2019 often for quite a long time<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unlike epilepsy, functional seizures are not due to abnormal electrical activity in the brain or another neurological disease. They are however due to a temporary problem in the way the nervous system is working, a bit like a&nbsp;<a href=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\/\">trance like state<\/a>. They are potentially  treatable, although not with tablets but instead learning techniques to get control of them and working out why they may have happened in the first place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Whereas epileptic seizures are caused by a sudden, abnormal electrical discharge in the brain, dissociative seizures happen through a process in the brain known as <a href=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">dissociation<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"721\" height=\"499\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2552\" srcset=\"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS.jpg 721w, https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS-300x208.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Functional Seizures are common. Nearly half of all people brought in to hospital with suspected epilepsy have them. There are probably around 50,000 people in the UK at any one time with functional seizures and 250,000 in the USA.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many patients with functional seizures will have been wrongly diagnosed as epilepsy at some point and may have even taken drugs for epilepsy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>What are the typical features?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2554\" width=\"471\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS2.jpg 845w, https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS2-300x134.jpg 300w, https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS2-768x343.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 471px) 100vw, 471px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The above image represents a functional seizures. It is from a 19th century book describing them<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are two main types of functional seizures:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li><strong><em>With movements<\/em><\/strong>&nbsp;\u2013 typically the patient has thrashing movements that look just like a generalised epileptic seizure (previously called \u2018grand mal\u2019)<\/li><li><strong><em>Without movements&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong>\u2013 in these attacks patients fall down to the ground and lie motionless and unresponsive, often for many minutes. Some people also have staring episodes.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Your doctor will be looking for specific and typical features of dissociative attacks that are different to epilepsy. These include:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>Long duration of attacks<\/li><li>The nature of abnormal movements of your head and limbs if there are any<\/li><li>The presence of a prolonged period of unresponsiveness<\/li><li>The appearance of your eyes and mouth during the attack<\/li><li>Whether you had any warning before the attack. \u201cWarnings\u201d before functional seizures can be of variable length. Their duration can vary from being completely absent, to several hours. There is sometimes a pattern of escalating and frightening physical symptoms before an attack, often with dissociative symptoms (see below and the page on \u2018<a href=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms-feeling-spaced-out\/\">dissociation<\/a>\u2019).<\/li><li>Patients with functional seizures often find it even harder to describe their attacks than patients with epilepsy<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Making a diagnosis of functional seizures requires the doctor to be expert in the diagnosis of epilepsy, since epilepsy comes in many different forms. The two types of problem can look very similar, even to well trained observers such as paramedics, nurses and  hospital physicians<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Specialists can diagnose attacks more accurately (in 9 out of 10 cases) if they can see a video of them (such as a video recorded on a mobile phone). They can also often be quite certain about the diagnosis if they\u2019ve seen and examined you during one of your attacks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes, if doctors are unsure, they can use an EEG (Electroencephalogram) to look at electrical activity in the brain. It shows an abnormal pattern of electrical activity during epileptic seizures but these patterns are not seen in functional seizures. The EEG is most useful when it is combined with a video recording of one of your seizures. Even here what the doctor should be looking for is a typical appearance of functional seizures and not just a &#8216;normal EEG&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Brain scans, such MRI or CT scans, are NOT helpful in diagnosing dissociative seizures, but may be done to make sure that the person with functional seizures doesn&#8217;t have something else AS WELL.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>Why do they happen?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Dissociative attacks are a complex problem. They arise for different reasons in different people. Often the symptoms are accompanied by feelings of frustration, worry and low mood but these are not the cause of the problem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We recognise a number of different situations in which functional seizure can arise. Your symptom may fall in to one of these categories although often none of these appear relevant:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol><li><em>Randomly<\/em>&nbsp;\u2014 One of the most confusing things about these attacks is that they often happen out of the blue without warning.<\/li><li><em>At rest not distracted<\/em>&nbsp;&#8211; Functional seizures and the trance like state that goes along with them are more likely to occur when you are resting doing nothing, for example in bed or on the sofa. If you are distracted or focusing on something else, its difficult for that trance feeling to &#8216;overtake&#8217; you.<\/li><li><em>With hyperventilation<\/em>&nbsp;&#8211; In some people these attacks can occur at the same time as a shallow and rapid breathing pattern called hyperventilation. You may not even notice that you are breathing too fast but others may do so. If you are hyperventilating this may be making the attack worse. It is useful to know this because it may provide a way of stopping future attacks at an earlier stage. Other physical symptoms you may experience during an attack are hot flushes, a tight chest and tingling in your hands. Sometimes these symptoms are more clearly those of a&nbsp;<a href=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/worry-panic\/\">panic attack<\/a>.<\/li><li><em>With depersonalisation\/derealisation<\/em>\u2014These words describe&nbsp;<a href=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"\/symptoms\/common-associated-symptoms\/dissociative-symptoms\/\">dissociative<\/a>&nbsp;symptoms that many people have at the same time as their functional seizures. This is usually a frightening feeling that things around you are not quite real, or that you don\u2019t quite feel connected to your body or a feeling that everything is far away and weird. If you have these symptoms it is helpful to know what they are and that they are part of the attack. Many people who have never experienced these symptoms before are so frightened by them that they think they might be dying. You can get an \u2018out of body experience\u2019 with these attacks but you cannot die from them.Often people describe being aware of people around them but being unable to talk to them.<\/li><li><em>With stress<\/em> &#8211; Some people describe having attacks that are clearly brought on by stress. Having a seizure after an upsetting argument or when you\u2019re a busy, noisy place such as a supermarket are examples. Some patients report that they have seizures when they think about very upsetting things.<\/li><li><em>With pain <\/em>&#8211; Pain is very common in people with FND. Some people develop functional seizures in response to surges in pain. Whats happening seems to be that their brains learn to &#8220;switch  off&#8221; in these situations to get rid of the pain. Except its not the person thats &#8220;doing it&#8221;. Its happening automatically<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Patients with functional seizures often have a brief warning least 50% of the time. Some have no warning. Others have a warning every time. Quite often patients start out with a warning which over time gets shorter and shorter and may disappear.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learning about this warning phase, learning to prolong it and learning how the blackout may be your body&#8217;s response to these horrible warning symptoms can be a key part of learning to overcome functional seizures<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Click on&nbsp;<a href=\"\/treatment\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"\/treatment\/\">Treatment&nbsp;<\/a>to find out more in general and find the specific page on the&nbsp;<a href=\"\/treatment-2\/treatment-of-dissociative-attacks\/\">treatment of functional seizures<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>What things happen over time to make seizures worse?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>It may never be possible to say why someone has functional seizures, but once seizures start, many things can happen to make them worse. For most people, simply worrying about the seizures can actually make them a lot worse. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A kind of \u201cvicious circle\u201d sets in where worry about the seizures means they happen more often, leading to more worry and more seizures.<br \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Examples of things that make people worry about their seizures (and which can, in<br \/>turn, make them worse) include:<br \/>\uf0b7 fear of being injured during a seizure<br \/>\uf0b7 fear of being embarrassed by having a seizure in public<br \/>\uf0b7 fear of losing control<br \/>\uf0b7 being told different things by different doctors<br \/>\uf0b7 feeling that none of the doctors know what\u2019s wrong with you<br \/>\uf0b7 fearing that you have a serious underlying illness that hasn\u2019t been picked up<br \/>\uf0b7 taking medication that doesn\u2019t help<br \/>\uf0b7 having unpleasant side-effects from medication<br \/>\uf0b7 fear of not being believed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"721\" height=\"496\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS4.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2555\" srcset=\"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS4.jpg 721w, https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/DS4-300x206.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3>Links for Functional (Dissociative) Seizures<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>There are now some useful links on the web:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/blackoutsattacks\/www.nonepilepticattacks.info\" target=\"_blank\">www.nonepilepticattacks.info<\/a> is a detailed site launched in February 2011 &nbsp;with information about dissociative (non-epileptic) attacks. It&#8217;s well worth reading through.<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"http:\/\/www.codestrial.org\" target=\"_blank\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"http:\/\/www.codestrial.org\">www.codestrial.org<\/a> was a multi-centre trial for dissociative seizures taking place in the UK. There are eligibility criteria and you have to be a patient of one of the participating centres but there are many of these across the UK. The site now carries a short video describing the trial and its results<\/li><li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nonepilepticseizures.com\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"www.nonepilepticseizures.com\">www.nonepilepticseizures.com<\/a> is a US based site created by health professionals and researchers to provide more information for patient with these symptoms<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>There are videos on Youtube of people having functional seizures. I have decided not to embed them as not everyone wants to see someone having a seizure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Episodes that look and feel like epileptic seizures or faints<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":65,"featured_media":1628,"parent":937,"menu_order":280,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"page-template\/symptom-details-page-template.php","meta":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/530"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/65"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=530"}],"version-history":[{"count":198,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/530\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15604,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/530\/revisions\/15604"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/937"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1628"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neurosymptoms.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=530"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}